Thursday, February 4

UPDATE: How Illegal Aliens get a 'Social Security Number' in their own Name

For a long time running now, one of the most popular pages on my blog has been an explanation of "How Illegal Aliens get a 'Social Security Number' in their own Name"

The blog post has received a number of very opinionated comments and I had even received a message that I had been reported to the Government for publishing a 'how-to' guide for illegal aliens. This of course is idiotic given that the illegal alien community shares with newcomers the tricks of the trade.

Now comes word via the TaxProf Blog just how widespread this fraud is.
IRS Has 70% Error Rate in Issuance of Taxpayer ID Numbers, Resulting in Fraudulent Tax Refunds

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) today publicly released its review of the IRS's processing of applications for Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs).

TIGTA reviewed a sample of ITIN applications and found that almost 70% contained significant errors and/or raised concerns that should have prevented the issuance of an ITIN. The IRS estimates that it has issued more than 14 million ITINs as of December 2008.

ITINs are intended to provide tax identification numbers to resident and nonresident alien individuals who may have U.S. tax reporting or filing obligations but do not qualify for Social Security Numbers, which generally are only issued to U.S. citizens and individuals legally admitted to the U.S. ...

"The number of individual income tax returns filed using ITINs and reporting wage income has increased by 247 percent from 2001 to 2008," commented J. Russell George, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. "If the IRS continues to issue ITINs without proper verification, the risk of fraudulently filed returns – along with fraudulently claimed refunds – will continue to rise," added Inspector General George. - TaxProf Blog
So how many illegal aliens are working at jobs that report their earnings to the IRS. For 2008, there were at least 1.8 million jobs being done by illegal aliens who have given their employer an ITIN number claiming it was their Social Security Number. The number might be even higher as the total was of returns where an ITIN number was used for wage income. It does not take into account any joint filings where both filers used an ITIN.

Keep in mind that is close to 2 million jobs that could be done by Americans who are out of work that are instead being done by illegal aliens. And forget about that excuse that illegal aliens are doing the jobs that Americans won't do. These are jobs in companies reporting their earnings to the IRS. You can bet that there are Americans alongside them. The problem is that the Americans willing to do those jobs are in different parts of the country where politicians refuse to suggest that they move to where the work is.
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Anonymous said...

This Crap is crazy.... I don't know what to do anymore.... and i don't really get this. So are you helping illegal immigrants to "illegally" get a job?

Fred Fry said...

No. It is the US Government actively helping illegal aliens get jobs. I am just telling you how they let this happen.

Anonymous said...

hi i am 20 years old and was brought here illegally by my parents when i was an infant. i am trying to get a job but of course i dont have a ssn. not even a fake one. i want to apply to get an itin number atleast to work legally and get taxes the way im supposed to, not illegal. when i worked in AZ i paid my taxes but never got them back. i want to do it the right way and get the money that i deserve. all of these online things are kind of iffy because they ask for your info before you even apply and i dont want to risk getting spammed. how do i go about that? if you know.

Fred Fry said...

Unfortunately for you, it is not possible to work here legally.

your current problem is one that was created by your parents coming here without permission. Paying taxes does not make working here any more legal.

Sorry but that is the truth.

Anonymous said...

well thanks for your honesty. i am currently pending as far as my status here in the US. it can take up to three years for me to be completely legal. so i guess i will have to wait to work. luckily my husband is working he is a us citizen. I just want to work and get my taxes like everyone else. their is quite a few people who are getting fraudulent taxes, but i dont want to do that. and yes blame it on my parents. lol

willyan said...

dont blame them, thank them because if they took you from where you were then its probably because there was nothing for you there. if they brought you here its because either they ran out of hope where they were or this is a better place than where you were. my mom did the same thing to me and i thank her because where i came from all my friend either deals with drogs, got arrested or are dead and if i stayed there i would most likely have ended up just like them so dont blame your parents... thank them.

Anonymous said...

to the person who started the Miguel thing.
Seriously? Miguel??
Ok so your saying your teaching your children to not cheat or lie right?
well I think You Should Also Definetly Teach Them To NOT Be Racist or else they will turn out just like you (we dont need more people like you). Yes people might do this stuff to get money but im sure if you were in that same situation I guarantee you, you would of done the same especially since you have kids. and dont say you wouldnt because the people who do these things dont just do it for the money, its very obvious that they are getting their spending money from a job since you get a w2 form from work. they do this for their families in need. If i made enough money and had a good stable job i wouldnt bother thinking of doing something like this i would be proud to pay my taxes and hope that the money goes to someone in much more need of the money.
And If You Didnt Know the US is made of immigrants so dont be calling others illegal because last time i check the natives were the first people in this land!!.
I recommend you go to your local Library and check out some books about the history of the U.S. seems like you need a lot to learn about your country before you go out opening your mouth being racist acting like your mr. perfect... guess what theres no such thing as "perfect".

Anonymous said...

Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. Paid to persons who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but do not have, and not entitled to a Social Security number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA), can apply for and obtain ITIN from the IRS issued.

"I want a is my SS Card".....

Final Rule Effective August 23rd, 2010
U.S. law requires companies to employ only individuals who may legally work in the United States – either U.S. citizens, or foreign citizens who have the necessary authorization. This diverse workforce contributes greatly to the vibrancy and strength of our economy, but that same strength also attracts unauthorized employment.

Some Opinions about EEV..

CATO...REPUBLICAN OPINION BEFORE IT PASSED..."Creating an accurate EEV system would require a national identification (ID) system, costing about $20 billion to create and hundreds of millions more per year to operate."

U.S Chamber of Commerce OPINION...BEFORE IT PASSED...Final Word on Structural Flaws: A mandatory EEVS is one component of the larger issue of immigration reform and, without comprehensive immigration reform, it may simply exacerbate the current situation by pushing unauthorized workers further into the underground economy.

Critical thinking would let you come to the conclusion...that hiring a worker for as little as you can...would be an illegal worker...Logic would then look at the two opinions by Republicans show, that this EEV would not be a good idea.

Follow the money with why 'good things' don't get done...but this did get done in 2010

You have an ITIN are caught with the EEV verification.

Anonymous said...

Hello, can an anyone tell me what STRAWMAN means? and what HJR 192 really means?