How Illegal Aliens get a 'Social Security Number' in their own Name
Illegal aliens don't need to steal or make up a social security number to give to an employer. There is another less illegal way in which the Government issues them a number.
Step one:
Step one:
- apply for a Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) from the IRS:
For good reason, an ITIN card does not look anything like a Social Security card:An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. It is a nine-digit number that always begins with the number 9 and has a 7 or 8 in the fourth digit, example 9XX-7X-XXXX.
IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA).
ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have U.S. tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code.
Individuals must have a filing requirement and file a valid federal income tax return to receive an ITIN, unless they meet an exception.ITINs are for federal tax reporting only, and are not intended to serve any other purpose. An ITIN does not authorize work in the U.S. or provide eligibility for Social Security benefits or the Earned Income Tax Credit. ITINs are not valid identification outside the tax system.IRS issues ITINs to help individuals comply with the U.S. tax laws, and to provide a means to efficiently process and account for tax returns and payments for those not eligible for Social Security Numbers. - IRS
So....Step two:
- Put that valid ITIN number onto a fake Social Security card.
They now have a valid tax number on a Social Security card giving them the 'proof' needed to get a job. (Apparently employers do not check the number, accepting the card as proof enough.)
- No need to use a number stolen from someone else.
- No risk that you are one of many illegal aliens using the same number.
- Peace of mind that the number has been assigned to you.
I have no idea how popular this type of fraud is. I was only recently made aware of the process.
Pretty sneaky eh?
- No need to use a number stolen from someone else.
- No risk that you are one of many illegal aliens using the same number.
- Peace of mind that the number has been assigned to you.
I have no idea how popular this type of fraud is. I was only recently made aware of the process.
Pretty sneaky eh?
Update: 4 October 2007
Just to be clear, the process explained above is illegal!
Labels: Illegal Aliens
posted by Fred Fry @ 9/27/2007 10:15:00 AM
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It is amazing. The government sets itself up for fraud just to get a few extra tax dollars.
Not a few dollars, about 12,000,000
(ITIN) are issue acording with 2001 count so lets add 7 yrs to that whoa!!!!!!thats alot of number people the goverment or IRS
they know they make tonnes of money with this numbers and they will keep doing it why? because its right or wrong no because its a great source of income for wars or any other senceless thing stead of using the money in sometime where all the people of America can use......Tom Marcousky.
check this out!
12 mil itin`s wow
Gov is getting scammed.
below is true -
married hispanic couple-
husband works 2 jobs, both with different socials
wife works and they have 3 kids.
Now the kicker- They both claim married - 8
on payrolls. Try claiming married 8 and very little is withheld for fed taxes. Lower income jobs like $12 per hour 0 taxes withheld from fed and state.
This couple has just grossed about 60k for the year not bad when your low income rent is around $600 a month.
Married hispanic couple goes to do the good ole taxes. Claims husband only worked 1 job and made 25k, wife stayed home to watch kids - yeah right! Remember social sec #`s are easy to buy on the street.
Guess what 25k and 3 kids - holy cow eic kicks in for those kids and this couple just gets a tax return of 3-4k every year and never paid a dime to fed taxes.
Imagine what we could do if we didn`t have to claim all our wages.
So in realty the Gov is losing money by giving these tin numbers. Because most of the w2`s are tossed in garbage. Oh and by the way brother Miguel is living in the apartment and he makes about 30k a year but the low income housing complex has no idea he lives there. I found Miguels w2 in the garbage the other day, why would he lose this? not married and no kids - hmmmm.
why would that bother you that miguel or whoever through his w2 away he is the one losing out not you and if you weren't so noisy you wouldn't know that info but not only do mexicans do that sort of thing I know a lot of americans white and black that through their 1099 tax paper away so they don't have to pay the government so lets not point any fingers most hispanics just want a better life and want that for their kids also so their is no harm in that and if the government let then get thier documentation faster and easier I know for a fact they will gladly pay or summit there taxes.
YOU my friend are a MORON!!!!
1.Miguel threw his (married 9 = 0 fed taxes withheld) W2 away to avoid PAYING taxes!
2.I`m an (noisy) American who pays his taxes and by the sound of your comments I prbably pay alittle for your ride also!
3.You need some new friends that dont cheat and lie. I dont have any friends who as you put it throw 1099`s away. My friends dont have 2-3 Id`s.
4.I have kids - I want a good life for my kids. Darn I didn`t realize I should be teaching them to lie, cheat and steal. I`ll make sure they read your comments.
Bottom line is I paid around 10k to fed and state taxes, but only get about 1k back in a tax return.
My whole point is - this couple and brother paid 0 fed and state taxes via weekly checks yet still get to pocket $4000 of our hard earned and paid taxes.
Gov needs to give everyone of the illegals a work permit now. And for every Miguel, white , black, yellow who forgets to file tax return. Probably claiming M-8 and yet single, his or her second year of work should be garnished until a return is filed.
Your solution would be for Miguels to change socials and itin numbers every year huh you tard. Hey boss my name is Joe now, cuz I dont like to pay taxes so I can provide for my kids. Welcome to America! Joe!
I think in this day an age the number of people who cheat and lie and take what they should not is enormous. Not just the Mexicans.
I was taught the law is the law.
What about the homeless that want all kinds of things given to them, picket and sit in, and many of them are just too lazy to get some work. I agree there are circumstances that cannot be helped, but some of those young ones out there begging on the streets and laughing behind your backs and all the prisoners we keep in jail at a tremendous cost (put them in pink and put them to work, like the guy in Arizona).
Offer something free and watch the ones come running! It is amazing.
Congrats on Posting a "How To" for everyone to access. I'm sure it's greatly appreciated for those who hadn't thought of it...
You do understand that the illegal aliens already know how to do this and have known about it for years. It is regular americans who have no clue.
How do you think illegal aliens pay millions to the IRS each year?
The real kicker here is the Government because they know immediately because employers report income with each number and the Government knows which numbers are ITINS and which are valid SS numbers. Traditionally, they did nothing about it but now are doing something. How do you think they decide which factory or processing plant to raid? those reporting lots of ITIN numbers as well as SS numbers that are being used many times over by multiple people across the country.
Just why is the US Government giving ITINS to illegal aliens? If you do not talk about it, it will never be corrected. And now, you have reason to be suspicious when someone hands you a social security card. At least businesses now have acces to an online system to check if the information on the card is valid or not. Too bad use of the system is only voluntary.
Well if a hispanic is married to a u. s. citizen and they have children together why doesnt the goverment make it a little easier to obtain a legal ss number and then that person will be a documented person like you and me and then they would not have to worry about people scamming them out of money. I am married to a hispanic that has an itin number we have paid over 5000.00 in attorney fees and 4000.00 in traveling fees trying to get papers fpr my husband and was denied he is a skilled worker here and we have two children he has no record but was denied the right to be here? What do you think is going to happen to me and his children WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
they are here and no matter what you are not going to force them out!!!!!!!
My personal opinion about this subject is that if the man or women is ore llegal alien and has this ITIN card, as long as he or she is living a life according to the laws of our government and is contributing to the government, there should not be a problem at all. In reality, the government has more to lose if they decide to not support illegal workers whose only reason to be in the u.s. is to work hard and be able to strive in life just like every other person here, as long as of course, they do it in a lawfull way. But they need the support of the government to be able to do any of this. And me myself being an illegal alien with an ITIN, support everyone else who thinks the way i do. Because i myself wish that one day i can have my own ssn and live a better happier life.
But the main problem here is that a lot of illegal aliens are not going with the easy-to -follow, common laws. I know people who got tickets and they give false names with false addresses. People, like the one commented above, who avoid paying taxes. I also know people who do taxes and go with the law as much as they can and for the government they are all the same, no punishment for no one, no prize for no one. NO LEGAL POSSIBILITY for the correct ones to do better (or legally), in my case, financially nor educationally. First, because many jobs require a SSN or driver's license (and no SSN, no DL); so it is kind of hard to get a job one is capable to do better than others. Then, they must pay as international student when living and doing taxes for years in the state they are living in, doing it almost impossible to pay as int'l student (unless you make a ton of money instead of $8.50/hr at McDonalds). Finally, I have understood that people with ITIN becoming legal aliens do not get the number changed on their SSN, they keep the 9xx-xx-xxxx; can anyone to verify this?
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